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Ule, Uron, U'ron, Allfather:  
 
Ule, Uron, U'ron, Allfather:  
  
Ule set out to create [[ogre]]s as part of a grand bet with [[Milashekhaad]]. But when the other creator gods became jealous they struck him down. Ule's body fell to earth and became a great mountain. At the peak his ogres found four children who were blessed by him. His children were [[Utezni]], [[Uganggi]], [[Una]], and [[Uchronus]].
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Ule set out to create [[ogre]]s as part of a grand bet with [[Melashekhaad]]. But when the other creator gods became jealous they struck him down. Ule's body fell to earth and became a great mountain. At the peak his ogres found four children who were blessed by him. His children were [[Utezni]], [[Uganggi]], [[Una]], and [[Uchronos]].
  
In some renditions, U'ron made ogres without Milashekhaad and before all other races. Melashekhaad was angry and sought to kill U'ron but the ogre was too huge and terrifying to attempt it for surely he would fail. Only when all the other gods took up arms against U'ron was he slain.
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In some renditions, U'ron made ogres without Melashekhaad and before all other races. Melashekhaad was angry and sought to kill U'ron but the ogre was too huge and terrifying to attempt it for surely he would fail. Only when all the other gods took up arms against U'ron was he slain.
  
 
=About Uron=
 
=About Uron=
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By Shaman [[Ghanima]]
 
By Shaman [[Ghanima]]
  
Uron and his motivations have always been hinted at, but never as directly explored as they are now. I have always felt a great affinity to him. He is the allfather, and our creator, but he is also gone.  I tried to imagine what it would be like for a young child to lose a parent, and that is what I think it was like for the Garad to lose Uron.  The Garad found new leadership under the 4, but I think there was some significant resentment towards them. (ie you’re not my real dad) This is where the godless come in. They reject the 4 as gods, and they also reject Uron because he died. I’m not going to say too much more about the godless right now. Theirs’ is a story largely unwritten, and I hope not a religious option any of you want to pursue. I would hate to have to kill you on sight.
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Uron and his motivations have always been hinted at, but never as directly explored as they are now. I have always felt a great affinity to him. He is the allfather, and our creator, but he is also gone.  I tried to imagine what it would be like for a young child to lose a parent, and that is what I think it was like for the Garad to lose Uron.  The Garad found new leadership under the 4, but I think there was some significant resentment towards them. (ie you’re not my real dad) This is where the godless come in. They reject the 4 as gods, and they also reject Uron because he died. I’m not going to say too much more about the godless right now. Theirs’ is a story largely unwritten, and I hope not a religious option any of you want to pursue. I would hate to have to kill you on sight.
  
 
When Kazi first came up with his theory about the war with the gods, he included Uron in the plan. I thought it was ridiculous. Uron would not have been concerned with goblins, even true ones. He was certain his creation was far superior. We do not know how we were supposed to end up, or what the final plan had been before Uron was slain. We know he made the 4 as perfectly as he could physically, but their souls were not complete as they were split off his own. His plan had been for the 4 to mature, and eventually grow into full godhood but that plan was cut short. Since the 4 could not house a full god they were only given a piece. (this is why they are so specialized in their skills) It is my belief, that Uron's hope was that as they lived they would grow and round out their divinity, but when Ucronos and Ugangi killed each other, their aspects were left more specialized. Una lives longer and is a little more diversified than the first 2, and Utezni is the closest to the great father in diversified wisdom and abilities through the nature of his long life; though only a 1/4 as strong. It is not that he is more powerful than the others, but better rounded, a more complete individual. The other 3 have more overt aspects of insanity as opposed to his. Utezni's “insanity” was in his solitude, as leader who didn't want to lead. But we will talk more about the 4 soon, just remember they are the ones who rule Yord.
 
When Kazi first came up with his theory about the war with the gods, he included Uron in the plan. I thought it was ridiculous. Uron would not have been concerned with goblins, even true ones. He was certain his creation was far superior. We do not know how we were supposed to end up, or what the final plan had been before Uron was slain. We know he made the 4 as perfectly as he could physically, but their souls were not complete as they were split off his own. His plan had been for the 4 to mature, and eventually grow into full godhood but that plan was cut short. Since the 4 could not house a full god they were only given a piece. (this is why they are so specialized in their skills) It is my belief, that Uron's hope was that as they lived they would grow and round out their divinity, but when Ucronos and Ugangi killed each other, their aspects were left more specialized. Una lives longer and is a little more diversified than the first 2, and Utezni is the closest to the great father in diversified wisdom and abilities through the nature of his long life; though only a 1/4 as strong. It is not that he is more powerful than the others, but better rounded, a more complete individual. The other 3 have more overt aspects of insanity as opposed to his. Utezni's “insanity” was in his solitude, as leader who didn't want to lead. But we will talk more about the 4 soon, just remember they are the ones who rule Yord.
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Uron and the Earth never had a creation story, they always just were. I envision a big bang kind of moment when the two formed at the same time. With the additional spirit element which we will discuss more about later, it makes more and more sense to me that the two, Uron and the Earth, were tied together, essentially symbiotically. That being said, even though he was the first god, he is a god no longer. As much affinity as I have for him, it is important to remember that he is dead. He is not the ogre jesus who died for our sins and was resurrected. He died in a way the other 4 did not when they ascended. We acknowledge that he made us, but we do not worship him, for if he had not died we would not have the 4 who directly shape our lives. We do not worship his twin/symbiote either, as it is not a god. We do not worship the U’ond as a god because it is not “sentient” per say. It is the great soul, but it is not an individual entity. I almost see the U’ond as what remained after Uron was created. It was not enough to make another god, but it still had a “life” to it. It is both a place, and a force which sent out aspects of itself in an instinctual way to make life in the form of animals and plants. We call these aspects the spirits. It is not a force we tap into, it is basically the ogres representation/name for the natural order.  It also does not exert direct power and control over us, it just is.We will go over more about ogres associations with the spirits later, but just as the U’ond is not a god, neither are they. They can be powerful, but we do not worship them.  
 
Uron and the Earth never had a creation story, they always just were. I envision a big bang kind of moment when the two formed at the same time. With the additional spirit element which we will discuss more about later, it makes more and more sense to me that the two, Uron and the Earth, were tied together, essentially symbiotically. That being said, even though he was the first god, he is a god no longer. As much affinity as I have for him, it is important to remember that he is dead. He is not the ogre jesus who died for our sins and was resurrected. He died in a way the other 4 did not when they ascended. We acknowledge that he made us, but we do not worship him, for if he had not died we would not have the 4 who directly shape our lives. We do not worship his twin/symbiote either, as it is not a god. We do not worship the U’ond as a god because it is not “sentient” per say. It is the great soul, but it is not an individual entity. I almost see the U’ond as what remained after Uron was created. It was not enough to make another god, but it still had a “life” to it. It is both a place, and a force which sent out aspects of itself in an instinctual way to make life in the form of animals and plants. We call these aspects the spirits. It is not a force we tap into, it is basically the ogres representation/name for the natural order.  It also does not exert direct power and control over us, it just is.We will go over more about ogres associations with the spirits later, but just as the U’ond is not a god, neither are they. They can be powerful, but we do not worship them.  
 
   
 
   
Uron made Ogres elemental by nature. Uron watched how the spirits instinctually went about creation, and watched the forcefulness of Milashekhaad's with his, and basically took the best parts of both. Our souls were created out of the U’ond but changed, so that we could adapt and grow. I imagine the very first iteration as little better than Golems, but Uron continued to refine us, and our souls so that we had a will, wisdom, and distinction from the animals. I am particularly fond of Sigurd’s description of the creation of the garad paraphrased here. “Uron sculpted our bodies from stone and sewed veins of warm water through their limbs so they might move. He breathed air into our lungs so we could run and speak. He sparked fires in our hearts and minds so that we could became both wise and discerning.” We can grow and adapt in ways the spirits cannot. The spirits cannot change, but we can reason and shape our environments.  Uron foresaw no need or benefit in cities. We were meant to live and walk amongst the earth, but we are not the Earth. We are also meant to be everything goblyns are not. We are long lived, to a goblyns short life. We are wise to their silliness. We are large and strong and hearty, while they are small, often gangly, and would rather die and be reborn whole, than linger with an injury. Basically a good rule of thumb is if a goblin has a defining characteristic, the accompanying ogre characteristic will be opposed to it.  
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Uron made [[Ogres]] elemental by nature. Uron watched how the spirits instinctively went about creation, and watched the forcefulness of Melashekhaad's with his, and basically took the best parts of both. Our souls were created out of the U’ond but changed, so that we could adapt and grow. I imagine the very first iteration as little better than Golems, but Uron continued to refine us, and our souls so that we had a will, wisdom, and distinction from the animals. I am particularly fond of Sigurd’s description of the creation of the garad paraphrased here. “Uron sculpted our bodies from stone and sewed veins of warm water through their limbs so they might move. He breathed air into our lungs so we could run and speak. He sparked fires in our hearts and minds so that we could became both wise and discerning.” We can grow and adapt in ways the spirits cannot. The spirits cannot change, but we can reason and shape our environments.  Uron foresaw no need or benefit in cities. We were meant to live and walk amongst the earth, but we are not the Earth. We are also meant to be everything [[Goblyns]] are not. We are long lived, compared to a Goblyn's short life. We are wise to their silliness. We are large and strong and hearty, while they are small, often gangly, and would rather die and be reborn whole, than linger with an injury. Basically a good rule of thumb is if a goblyn has a defining characteristic, the accompanying ogre characteristic will be opposed to it. <Br>
It would be easy based off of this description to think that we are peaceful “hippie” creatures. This is absolutely not the case. We are not “noble savages.” Remember we are Monsters, we make war, we eat meat, we take what we want from our surroundings, as such is our birthright. We were made to be the dominant force in the world. Don’t forget that.  
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It would be easy based off of this description to think that we are peaceful “hippie” creatures. This is absolutely not the case. We are not “noble savages.” Remember we are Monsters, we make war, we eat meat, we take what we want from our surroundings, as such is our birthright. We were made to be the dominant force in the world. Never forget this.  
  
 
To round off everything, Uron can be seen as a mash up of Osiris, Baldr, Gitche Manitou, Ymir, etc. There are actually only a few gods in ancient mythologies who died and stayed dead. His lasting influence is seen in the 4 Urungnar. The idea is, if you put all of them together, you have Uron. He can be seen in aspects of the totem ceremony, but that is really the only way his memory interacts with us today. Once the last Garad died, all those who had actually known him as god are gone. So he is little more than memory now. Even the memory of what was once D'zono is too deformed and mangled now to remember such a thing.
 
To round off everything, Uron can be seen as a mash up of Osiris, Baldr, Gitche Manitou, Ymir, etc. There are actually only a few gods in ancient mythologies who died and stayed dead. His lasting influence is seen in the 4 Urungnar. The idea is, if you put all of them together, you have Uron. He can be seen in aspects of the totem ceremony, but that is really the only way his memory interacts with us today. Once the last Garad died, all those who had actually known him as god are gone. So he is little more than memory now. Even the memory of what was once D'zono is too deformed and mangled now to remember such a thing.

Latest revision as of 23:19, 7 March 2020


Ule, Uron, U'ron, Allfather:

Ule set out to create ogres as part of a grand bet with Melashekhaad. But when the other creator gods became jealous they struck him down. Ule's body fell to earth and became a great mountain. At the peak his ogres found four children who were blessed by him. His children were Utezni, Uganggi, Una, and Uchronos.

In some renditions, U'ron made ogres without Melashekhaad and before all other races. Melashekhaad was angry and sought to kill U'ron but the ogre was too huge and terrifying to attempt it for surely he would fail. Only when all the other gods took up arms against U'ron was he slain.

[edit] About Uron

By Shaman Ghanima

Uron and his motivations have always been hinted at, but never as directly explored as they are now. I have always felt a great affinity to him. He is the allfather, and our creator, but he is also gone. I tried to imagine what it would be like for a young child to lose a parent, and that is what I think it was like for the Garad to lose Uron. The Garad found new leadership under the 4, but I think there was some significant resentment towards them. (ie you’re not my real dad) This is where the godless come in. They reject the 4 as gods, and they also reject Uron because he died. I’m not going to say too much more about the godless right now. Theirs’ is a story largely unwritten, and I hope not a religious option any of you want to pursue. I would hate to have to kill you on sight.

When Kazi first came up with his theory about the war with the gods, he included Uron in the plan. I thought it was ridiculous. Uron would not have been concerned with goblins, even true ones. He was certain his creation was far superior. We do not know how we were supposed to end up, or what the final plan had been before Uron was slain. We know he made the 4 as perfectly as he could physically, but their souls were not complete as they were split off his own. His plan had been for the 4 to mature, and eventually grow into full godhood but that plan was cut short. Since the 4 could not house a full god they were only given a piece. (this is why they are so specialized in their skills) It is my belief, that Uron's hope was that as they lived they would grow and round out their divinity, but when Ucronos and Ugangi killed each other, their aspects were left more specialized. Una lives longer and is a little more diversified than the first 2, and Utezni is the closest to the great father in diversified wisdom and abilities through the nature of his long life; though only a 1/4 as strong. It is not that he is more powerful than the others, but better rounded, a more complete individual. The other 3 have more overt aspects of insanity as opposed to his. Utezni's “insanity” was in his solitude, as leader who didn't want to lead. But we will talk more about the 4 soon, just remember they are the ones who rule Yord.

Uron and the Earth never had a creation story, they always just were. I envision a big bang kind of moment when the two formed at the same time. With the additional spirit element which we will discuss more about later, it makes more and more sense to me that the two, Uron and the Earth, were tied together, essentially symbiotically. That being said, even though he was the first god, he is a god no longer. As much affinity as I have for him, it is important to remember that he is dead. He is not the ogre jesus who died for our sins and was resurrected. He died in a way the other 4 did not when they ascended. We acknowledge that he made us, but we do not worship him, for if he had not died we would not have the 4 who directly shape our lives. We do not worship his twin/symbiote either, as it is not a god. We do not worship the U’ond as a god because it is not “sentient” per say. It is the great soul, but it is not an individual entity. I almost see the U’ond as what remained after Uron was created. It was not enough to make another god, but it still had a “life” to it. It is both a place, and a force which sent out aspects of itself in an instinctual way to make life in the form of animals and plants. We call these aspects the spirits. It is not a force we tap into, it is basically the ogres representation/name for the natural order. It also does not exert direct power and control over us, it just is.We will go over more about ogres associations with the spirits later, but just as the U’ond is not a god, neither are they. They can be powerful, but we do not worship them.

Uron made Ogres elemental by nature. Uron watched how the spirits instinctively went about creation, and watched the forcefulness of Melashekhaad's with his, and basically took the best parts of both. Our souls were created out of the U’ond but changed, so that we could adapt and grow. I imagine the very first iteration as little better than Golems, but Uron continued to refine us, and our souls so that we had a will, wisdom, and distinction from the animals. I am particularly fond of Sigurd’s description of the creation of the garad paraphrased here. “Uron sculpted our bodies from stone and sewed veins of warm water through their limbs so they might move. He breathed air into our lungs so we could run and speak. He sparked fires in our hearts and minds so that we could became both wise and discerning.” We can grow and adapt in ways the spirits cannot. The spirits cannot change, but we can reason and shape our environments. Uron foresaw no need or benefit in cities. We were meant to live and walk amongst the earth, but we are not the Earth. We are also meant to be everything Goblyns are not. We are long lived, compared to a Goblyn's short life. We are wise to their silliness. We are large and strong and hearty, while they are small, often gangly, and would rather die and be reborn whole, than linger with an injury. Basically a good rule of thumb is if a goblyn has a defining characteristic, the accompanying ogre characteristic will be opposed to it.
It would be easy based off of this description to think that we are peaceful “hippie” creatures. This is absolutely not the case. We are not “noble savages.” Remember we are Monsters, we make war, we eat meat, we take what we want from our surroundings, as such is our birthright. We were made to be the dominant force in the world. Never forget this.

To round off everything, Uron can be seen as a mash up of Osiris, Baldr, Gitche Manitou, Ymir, etc. There are actually only a few gods in ancient mythologies who died and stayed dead. His lasting influence is seen in the 4 Urungnar. The idea is, if you put all of them together, you have Uron. He can be seen in aspects of the totem ceremony, but that is really the only way his memory interacts with us today. Once the last Garad died, all those who had actually known him as god are gone. So he is little more than memory now. Even the memory of what was once D'zono is too deformed and mangled now to remember such a thing.

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